[-empyre-] human glitches

Michael Bell mbell at visibleweather.com
Wed Dec 14 05:23:43 EST 2011

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Michael Bell

On Dec 13, 2011, at 12:14 PM, Julian Oliver <julian at julianoliver.com> wrote:

> ...on Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 12:03:56PM -0500, Renate Ferro wrote:
>> Funny you should write about limiting our glitchy discussion to
>> hardware and software because I was thinking about my early days as an
>> art undergraduate student when I did quite a bit of weaving, tapestry
>> and fibers installation.  To authenticate the fact that the piece was
>> actually hand made and not machine made my classmates and I would
>> leave one thread of a woven design mis-threaded on purpose or a couple
>> of stitches in a tapestry left awry.  That one unobtrusive glitch was
>> to authenticate the trace and touch of the human hand.  Our mentor
>> encouraged us to follow this tradition of many early weavers.  If my
>> memory is serving me well this glitch was referred to it as a "lazy"
>> thread.....though I may be wrong!
>> Thanks all for  interesting discussion on the glitch....I have been
>> enjoying it. Renate Ferro
> Incidentally I'm not limiting it to hardware and software at all, this is a
> misreading. Rather I'm 'limiting' it to systems, in other words anything
> Engineered. They need not be software or hardware. This is a far more fruitful
> reading of glitch and one that doesn't require migrating it from the culture
> from which it originally came.
> It seems my post of yesterday morning has yet to be moderated through - it
> unpacks this a bit further!
> Cheers,
> Julian
>> On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 10:39 AM, Julian Oliver <julian at julianoliver.com> wrote:
>>> Hi Curt,
>>> ..on Thu, Dec 08, 2011 at 05:34:05AM -0500, Curt Cloninger wrote:
>>>> It seems like you are wanting to limit the discussion of glitches to
>>>> occurrences that happen at the hardware and software level, within

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