[-empyre-] Videogames of the oppressed / oppressive games

Krosrods Moarquech moarquech at yahoo.com.mx
Tue Mar 5 15:52:05 EST 2013


Luis Hernández (México)
Corridos
http://www.ungravity.org/corridos/


Corridos the game has two neighborhoods semi-factually based on two nearby neighboorhoods on the us mexican frontier; a section of downtown tijuana and an adjacent mall in us san ysidro.  The neighborhoods were modeled by looking at maps and taking photos.


Rafael Fajardo
Director, SWEAT collaborative
Projects: Crosser 
Crosser is a product of SWEAT my videogame collaborative.  In it I introduce the character of Carlos Moreno. 
The arcade classic, Frogger, was taken as source material for simulating cultural realities at the US-Mexico border, specifically at El Paso-Ciudad Juarez. I attempted to create a multi-level critique through the piece, of culture, of games, and of technology. Crosser
2000
videogame created in Apple abandonware entitled Cocoa,
ported to Stagecast Creator in 2002, 
requires Stagecast Player and Java be installed prior to play



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 De: Ana Valdés <agora158 at gmail.com>
Para: paolo - molleindustria <paolo at molleindustria.it> 
CC: soft_skinned_space <empyre at lists.cofa.unsw.edu.au> 
Enviado: Lunes, 4 de marzo, 2013 19:29:06
Asunto: Re: [-empyre-] Videogames of the oppressed / oppressive games
 
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Paolo it was my bad spelling! It was Afkar the one I ment and the games were the ones you describe, Under Siege and Under Ash. I read the interview some years ago, my friend Flavio from Ars Games sent it to me. I was sad I missed to listen to him and I was not able to find him when I was in Damascus, twice in the same year, to work with Palestinian girls from refugee camps making a workshop about games.
I asked them if anyone of them played these games, Under Ash and Under Siege, but none of them knew about them. The games were played by boys in arcade halls where girls were not welcome.
That's still something I think we lack in all games I played or reviewed. If you are a girl from the Middle East or from Africa or from Indigenous South America or from India or Bangladesh or from Turkey, Iran, Greece, or rural Italy, the Basilicata from where my Italian grandfathers emigrated, which are your role models, your icons, your examples to follow. 
I read again the other day the wonderful book "Reading Lolita in Teheran". It was again a déjà by feeling, we are still making games after Western parameters and we have very much to do if we are going to achieve what Paulo Freire and Augusto Boal wanted, have the oppressed to be main characters in their own stories. Or with the words of one of the philosophers and writers I admire most, Gayatri Spivak, "let the subaltern speak".
You, as Italian, must be familiar with Gramscis concept of subalternity. I think we need more Gramsci in our games :)
Ana

Skickat från min iPhone

4 mar 2013 kl. 21:16 skrev paolo - molleindustria <paolo at molleindustria.it>:

> 
> I'm going to condense a couple of answers in one message for the benefit of your mailboxes.
> 
> 
> On 3/3/13 11:49 AM, Ana Valdés wrote:
>> I has been in Palestine several times and played with kids games done in the Middle East by Assad Media, a Syrian video games company. They did a game called Freedom Fighter, where the main character must destroy an Israeli Merkava tank and free the Al Aqksa mosque. It was exact the same kind of game the American army launch to recruit kids in the army, the difference was only the symbols.
> 
> If you are referring to Afkar Media's games Under Ash and Under Siege, I agree that their treatment of conflicts is strikingly similar to that of the Western FPS from which they are derived. To me this is a further proof that we need to imagine new gameplays to express new instances.
> However, while Western military shooters tend to be straightforward gun porn, those two titles at least try to qualify the violence and framing them within real events. Beyond the surface they have rather unique features you won't find in titles like America's Army. For example the playable heroes in Under Siege who decide to resort to violence are eventually killed.
> I had the luck to meet Radwan Kasmiya, the director of Afkar Media, in Spain. I found him extremely thoughtful and articulate, unlike any AAA developers of shooters from the US. You can read an interview here:
> http://www.digitalislam.eu/article.do?articleId=1418
> 
> I am glad these games exists because they provided us with a important mirrored image of our violent games. I'm also glad his new company is now focusing on games in Arabic for a very specific Middle East audience, staying away from idiotic controversies.
> 
> 
> 
> On 3/4/13 9:52 AM, Robert Nideffer wrote:
>> In '04 we did a follow-up at the Beall called "ALT-CTRL" on a much lower budget, but which was equally fun and interesting, perhaps even more so
> 
> Oh yes, I remember. That was the first time one of my games was exhibited in a gallery space, something I had not predicted. I think I'm going to start a thread later this week about games in the white cube.
> 
> 
> 
> On 3/4/13 12:17 PM, Claudia Pederson wrote:
>> As Paolo points out this approach is in development. Perhaps you could speak more about the case of cowclicker, a game that you worked on with Bogost.
>> http://www.wired.com/magazine/2011/12/ff_cowclicker/.
> 
> I did not work on Cowclicker, only on "Cowclicktivism" a short lived experiment in "Cowclickification" which was one of the various offshoots of that project. Anyway, Cow Clicker is a great example of procedural satire, using games to talk about games. The irony is that the project was successful because it generated great discussions and great features like the Wired profile you linked. The story of this respected scholar enslaved by his own joke-game, forced to confront his noisy, idiotic players was much more appealing than the game itself. It's a form of media intervention. Not unlike my Phone Story, which, as a game, was not great nor sophisticated, but the act of sticking it into the App store and getting banned from it become more important than the product itself.
> 
> Apparently a decent amount of people actually got addicted to Cow Clicker, but the extent of the phenomenon didn't really matter. Among activist/pranksters circles we use a fancy word "mythopoesis", to refer to the conscious act of myth creation. It's kind of like lying to the media knowing that media always lie.
> As the poet once said: "In a world which really is topsy-turvy, the /true is a moment/ of the /false/."
> 
> 
> 
> On 3/4/13 9:23 AM, Renate Ferro wrote:
>> Many of our subscribers are not gamers but new media artists,
>> programmers, and curators. My question is (and my apologies if this is
>> naive) but how much do you think the platform, that is the coding and
>> programming structure and the scale of games has to do with your
>> understanding for the necessity of the aesthetic of less abstraction
>> as you describe it.  Games especially successful ones seem to  have a
>> common aesthetic or at least those that I am aware of.  Any thoughts
>> about that? I refer here to the look not the content here....
>> Thanks. Renate
> 
> It's true, big budget games (aka AAA games) are rarely abstract. Since the mid '90s there have been a tension toward more polygons, more definition, more details.
> Videogames are both drivers and victims Moore's law. In the personal computer market, games are historically the main reason people upgrade their machines. In the console market the hardware/software relationship is even tighter: games *have* to justify the cycles of planned obsolescence. It would be very hard to get the approval for a playstation 4 game that looks like it's from the playstation 2 era.
> It's also a cultural thing on the consumer side: gamers do like that kind of hyperrealist puppet theater that make many of us cringe. It makes them feel like their money is well spent. Fortunately this aesthetic is changing - or at least differentiating. Independent game makers, out of necessity or nostalgia, are proposing new-retro styles: low-resolution and low-poly visuals are becoming somewhat edgy and appealing for the mass market. Minecraft is an obvious example.
> 
> Anyway, when talking about the abstraction-realism continuum, I wasn't referring to the photorealistic surface but more to the distance from real-world scenarios (sort of equivalent to the blurred line between fiction and non fiction in literature and cinema) and to the fidelity of the model to the simulated bit of reality, which as I said before is a slippery issue.
> Alex Galloway once made a very useful distinction between Realistic-ness and Social Realism. I don't have too much to add to this great essay:
> http://www.gamestudies.org/0401/galloway/
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